This afternoon, I announced on Twitter that I’ve drafted an Open Letter to the Stellar Awards Gospel Music Academy (SAGMA) and Central City Productions (CCP), the two bodies responsible for the Stellar Awards and its voting process.
As many of you know, there was a tremendous uproar among the gospel music community when this year’s Stellar Award nominees were announced last week, leading many to question the integrity and legitimacy of the awards program altogether.
Without making a statement either way, I believe that God led me to write what will, prayerfully, prompt an edifying dialogue within the gospel music community and, ultimately, lead SAGMA to address some very valid concerns regarding some of its operating procedures.
I have pasted the entirety of my Open Letter below. I invite you to comment here, on the blog, about it. Even more, I urge you to sign the petition that I started, so that SAGMA & CCP can understand how widespread some of these concerns truly are: http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/sagma.
I look forward to hearing your thoughts!
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Open Letter ToThe Stellar Awards Gospel Music Academy (SAGMA)
And Central City Productions
I believe gospel music to be the greatest genre in the music industry. More than the excellent musicianship and staggering vocal abilities, the message of the Gospel, often wrapped in a diversity of sounds, is the only message that has the ability to truly transform lives and set its listeners free, eternally.
Twenty-five years ago, Central City Productions (CCP) began the Stellar Awards, acknowledging the value of this genre of music and embarking on a journey that would better the gospel music industry for decades to come. It is with great pride and gratitude that I applaud Don Jackson and his team at CCP for their commitment to gospel music, the people who create it, and the consumers who are blessed by it. Understandably, then, it is with a great degree of sadness and frustration that I now pen this letter to express my concerns with the current state of the awards show, specifically as it relates to the voting process.
Immediately following the Stellar Awards press conference on October 29, 2009 in Nashville, TN, the gospel music community witnessed a rather significant outcry from consumers, media, commentators, artists and executives within the gospel industry on numerous social networking websites and new media outlets. Shocked by the absence of several chart-topping, established artists from the nominees list, and by the presence of several lesser-known artists in some of the overall categories, the gospel community’s voice of dissension rose greater by the hour.
As I am certain you will agree, the value of any awards show is only as great as the perceived legitimacy of its voting process. At present, the overwhelming sentiment of the gospel music community is that the SAGMA voting process has been compromised and no longer adequately reflects the voice of the gospel industry. With prayer and thought, I have drafted this letter in hopes of creating a dialogue with SAGMA about how the gospel community can, collectively, ensure that integrity and legitimacy return to the Stellar Awards voting process.
I have pinpointed three key areas of concern, from which a litany of other issues flow—enforcement and accountability, membership criteria and, most recently, the public vote. I briefly address each of these concerns below:
~ Enforcement and Accountability ~
At its core, I believe the issue to be one of enforcement and accountability. SAGMA should enforce the rules it has in place and the gospel music community should be able to determine whether those rules are, in fact, being enforced. Though I am a dues-paying member of SAGMA, I do not possess a copy of any governing by-laws for the organization, nor do I know that such by-laws even exist. The gospel community has no way of ensuring that the SAGMA Executive Board follows protocol, as we have not been made privy to what the protocol is. As a result, various decisions have been made for which we can trace neither the origin nor intent.
For example, for each of the past three years, the eligibility dates, by which an album must have been released in order to be considered for an award, has shifted for reasons not fully explained to the community. Months are skewed and deadlines extended but, in the end, the validity of the award is diminished in the sight of the public. The official website of the Stellar Awards states that a “confidential Nominating committee” ensures that eligibility criteria are met, but such a committee is of no effect if the eligibility criteria remain fluid and erratic.
Similarly, the website states that entries must be “charting on the Billboard or Nielsen Sound Scan charts” in order to be included on the first ballot. If I were to audit the first ballot, which was made available to public voting, and compare the first-round nominees with the Billboard charts of that eligibility period, I am not convinced that each nominee would be listed.
Finally, I am absolutely certain that, this year, the first-round ballot was changed in the middle of the voting period to add an artist who was not originally on the list of first-round nominees. No official statement was made by SAGMA about the addition of that artist’s name whatsoever—the gospel music community was expected to simply accept it and proceed accordingly.
Within SAGMA, decisions appear to be made unilaterally and behind closed doors. The gospel music community is given information on a need-to-know basis, if at all. While I can respect the notion that this process requires a certain degree of confidentiality, I believe that greater transparency is still necessary. It is essential to the integrity of the organization.
~ Membership Criteria ~
According to the official website of the Stellar Awards, CCP formed the Stellar Awards Gospel Music Academy (SAGMA) to serve as the “official Stellar Awards voting body aimed at industry professionals.” The website further states that, to acknowledge the numerous supporters of gospel music “who are not actively working in the industry,” a second level of membership was added to SAGMA—that of an Associate Member.
As it presently stands, any individual who desires to participate in the Stellar Awards voting process may do so after simply completing an application, which we assume has been reviewed by someone, and paying the annual membership fee of $85. In fact, and perhaps in response to the national economic crisis, SAGMA boasted a “2-for-1” discount this year, such that two individuals were able to join the voting body for the price of one.
Though the SAGMA membership application designates that one must join either as an “industry professional” or as a “non-industry professional,” the criteria for what constitutes an “industry professional” seems unreasonably broad, allowing applicants to either select an industry role from among the roles listed, or to simply write-in a role, and submit a biography.
I believe that the integrity of SAGMA requires that voting members have their finger on the pulse of what has been driving the gospel music industry that year. To discourage the tendency to turn an awards show into a popularity contest, it is essential that the voting body of SAGMA be comprised of professionals who work in this industry, not merely anyone who submits a membership payment that year.
I take note of the requirements of the voting bodies of other awards shows, such as the National Academy of Recording Arts & Sciences (NARAS), which is responsible for the GRAMMY Awards. In order to be a voting member of NARAS, one must have “creative or technical credit on a minimum of six tracks” on albums that have been “commercially released in the United States.” Further, qualifying albums must have been sold on a non-consignment basis, such that a retailer must have purchased the albums in advance of individual sales. If an album is only sold on Amazon.com, CDBaby.com, or similar websites, it does not qualify.
Clearly, because of the intricacies of our industry, SAGMA cannot adopt such a strict policy. A great amount of albums released in the gospel music industry do not receive such broad distribution, and are often sold on a consignment basis. Still, the NARAS requirements have merit and should at least be considered in restructuring the eligibility requirements of a “voting member” of SAGMA.
Also unique to our genre and industry is a consideration of the type of voting designation that should be extended to members of choirs and ensembles. Perhaps a membership distinction of some sort should be made between a signed recording artist in our industry, and a person whose name is merely added to unverifiable liner notes as a member of a large mass choir, for example. It seems unlikely that the two share equal footing in terms of expertise, leaving me to wonder whether they should share equal voting rights. The current “pay-to-vote” structure strips SAGMA of its legitimacy in the public view.
~ The Public Vote ~
This year, the industry saw SAGMA undertake a positive and noteworthy initiative—allowing the public to participate in the Stellar Awards voting process. I believe, however, that the weight of the public’s participation should have been tempered in some way. Other awards shows have created special awards, such as “People’s Choice Awards” or “Fan Favorite” awards. Similarly, some awards shows allow the members’ votes to carry greater weight than the internet votes of the public (i.e., in a 2:1 ratio).
In either case—by creating a special award or by weighing the votes accordingly—the governing bodies of other awards shows have successfully acknowledged the voice of consumers while resting on the expertise of industry professionals. In so doing, the voting bodies have maintained the integrity of the voting process. I believe this to be a viable option for SAGMA and the Stellar Awards.
I am not asking that SAGMA and CCP amend the current list of nominees or in any way change its plans for the upcoming awards program. Despite rumblings on the internet about consumers who plan to boycott the upcoming awards show and future shows, I have no intention of doing so. Instead, I am eager to celebrate the past 25 years of gospel music with CCP and SAGMA.
I respectfully urge you, however, to take these concerns into consideration for the upcoming year. I believe I can speak for the gospel music community in requesting an opportunity for continued dialogue and a review and/or revising of the current SAGMA structure and operating procedures. At the very least, I look forward to a public statement in response to the above-noted concerns. Please be careful to not merely dismiss this letter as a shallow complaint. I believe that the concerns in this letter represent the concerns of the full spectrum of the gospel music community.
It is vital that the gospel music community believes in the integrity of the SAGMA voting process. It would be tragic to see the Stellar Awards, now in their 25th year, begin to flounder, as the designations of “Stellar Award winner” and “Stellar Award nominee” come to carry no significance in our marketplace.
Sincerely,
EJ Gaines
Editor, GospelPundit.com
well said, EJ!! I agree with this.
Good stuff EJ
I dont agree with everything said here, in my opinion Indie Artists work just as hard if not harder because they dont have major record labels and dollars and I think some of the things proposed here would remove the Indie Artist from the 'playing field'. Indie Artists and Indie Labels put in significant effort towards marketing and advertising and in some cases they build stronger fan relationships because they are closer and more 'touchable' to their fanbase. Soundscan has specific areas for Gospel artists and there are several charting sources that report into these. Perhaps I'm mis-reading your intent, but this whole letter (and petition) reads as a way to get rid of the Indie Artists and Labels and deem them unworthy to of Stellar recognition, and I just cant support that.
@Dee: I hear your concerns and I'd love to clarify my intent-- this is, in no way, intended to remove indie artists from the equation. The gospel industry is full of indies, which is why I stated "Clearly, because of the intricacies of our industry, SAGMA cannot adopt such a strict policy" as it relates to membership criteria. I'm with you on that. My greatest point in writing the letter is to alert SAGMA to the public perception of the process and to ignite a discussion that will better address the concerns of major artists, indie artists, execs and, perhaps most importantly, consumers. Thanks for your comment, as I would hate to steer anyone into thinking that only established artists with major distribution channels are worthy of recognition by the Stellar Awards. DEFINITELY not the message I'm trying to convey! Does that help at all?
Ed, your letter is thorough and is an accurate presentation of the facts as noted. It is unfortuante that the level of transparency required isn't apparent for the gospel community to identify. For NARAS and other such award organizations, their rules, voting procedures and guidelines are full set out for the entire community. It is sadly unfortunate that SAGMA seems to be lacking in that area. I agree that this impacts the validity of the process and the awards themselves. No one is saying that Indie Artists aren't valid or don't work hard, or don't deserve a Stellar Award. However, the process by which that is determined needs to be a transparent level playing field such that all artists are judged based on the same criteria - from release cut-off dates to voting privileges (Industry, Associate member, choir member etc.) I truly hope that your letter brings about the kind of constructive and open dialogue needed to maintain the integrity of the Stellars - for all Gospel Artists now and going forward.
You are killing me EJ! You say that you are called by God, but yet you are knocking these people...artists trying to live for God and express themselves through their music. How dare you!!!!!! Who do you think you are?..What album do you have at all. Who made you an expert? You need to repent and ask God for forgiveness...Touch not my annointed and do my prophet NO HARM! He is going to deal with you... It is His divine will for the list to be the way it is...Leave it alone and take it up with Him....Spiritual things are spiritually discerned. This is a Gospel Blog right?...What happened to uplifting the name of Our Lord in Savior instead of preying on innocent men and women of God that YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW! You are stirring up a spirit of contrite and discord and THAT IS NOT OF GOD...we will know you by your fruit and frankly you sound like you represent darkness and not light! Good day EJ
I agree with Anne....You seem to have a personal Agenda of your own EJ...I want something refreshing to come from our Gospel Blogs and website..we get enough drama and backbitting from the world...Gospel should be different. I'm sure SAGMA knows what they are doing and I have confidence in them. Get over it....This is a new Season with new artists. Let's celebrate it.....You want to know who these artists are, buy the album, you may be shocked. Just because you haven't heard of them, doesn't mean other people haven't. I'm tired of the same ole, same ole artist hogging up everything. We need to embrace new artists....All of the seasoned artists you would have chosen will tell you that they were once AN UNKNOWN ARTIST TOO!!!!!!!!
Well said Samantha....I'm tired of hearing about it too. It childish and petty. Too many other things going on in the World right now...We shouldn't try to cause division in our Christian and Gospel communities. Pray, Pray, Pray......Ask God to give you understanding if it is bothering you that much. Why is it bothering you so much????????? Who are you representing?? Leasve these people alone. Walk in there shoes... Willie James
KGM the GEM It just sounds like a lot of the big record labels and big artists are mad because their faces got cracked. The public and SAGMA has spoken. Poof- IT IS WHAT IT IS! Change is good. We need new artists added everyday and frankly Some of the artists are good! I googled Kim Ruff and she is the bomb! She can really sing. I haven't heard some of the others, but I'm sure they are where they are because they are good. Check it out: www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehpXwXC9OOg
Well EJ not really. If what you propose happens and only certain people with certain credentials can become SAGMA members, and an artist whose album is only on cdbaby or Amazon isnt eligible then you are proposing to eliminate many indie artist. If an indie artist can manage to chart, market & advertise, sell records all while keeping the vast majority of their royalties then thats not only a successful artist but thats good business. That artist in my opinion worked even harder because they didnt have major label backing and they did it on their own. If what you're proposing happens artist like these would be eliminated from Stellar contention and again I just cant support that, its not right.
@Dee-- we're actually agreeing on the same issue. I stated that NARAS (the GRAMMYs) doesn't consider artists whose album is only on CDBaby or Amazon to be eligible. Then, I followed that statement by saying that "clearly, because of the intricacies of OUR industry, SAGMA cannot adopt such a strict policy." I'm agreeing with you. The NARAS example was merely an illustration. I am NOT pushing for SAGMA to adopt that standard-- I do not find it feasible given the abundance of indie artists in our industry.
Sounds like we got a couple of SAGMA members on here upset and whining because they are actually being challenged... well done EJ and well written letter
@Anne, @Samantha and @Willie James-- Not sure if any of you are in some way connected with a nominated artist, which would explain your seemingly over-sensitivity, but I am absolutely certain, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that you cannot pinpoint language on this blog or any one of my Twitter messages in which I have knocked an artist for being nominated. Anne says "you are knocking these people," Samantha says "You want to know who these artists are," and Willie James says "Leasve these people alone." Each of you refer to "THESE PEOPLE," but I have never publicly disparaged any nominated artist. In fact, my ENTIRE LETTER is void of any reference whatsoever to the nominated artists except for in two places: 1. I stated that the gospel community was "shocked by the absence of several chart-topping, established artists from the nominees list, and by the presence of several lesser-known artists in some of the overall categories." That's true. I'm not making a judgment about it, I'm explaining why people were shocked. And that is the reason that THEY gave. I'm merely reporting it. It's fact. 2. I specifically stated that "I am not asking that SAGMA and CCP amend the current list of nominees..." I have specifically said that I do not want SAGMA & CCP to change a thing as it relates to the current list. So who are YOU referring to when you say that "these people" should be left alone? If ANY one of you can find ONE place on the entire world wide web in which I have said that an artist didn't deserve to be on the nominee list, I'll pay you. Until then, do your prayerful best to reign in your sensitivity and be willing to objectively examine the circumstances.
I agree about the over sensitivity of some who are commenting here. I don't agree with everything that is in the letter that EJ wrote, however it is HIS letter. He has questions and he deserves answers. Those are his concerns; he chose to share those concerns with us, as well as his very well written letter. If you are of a different opinion, that is fine. You are entitled to yours, as EJ is to his. But to rebuke and chastise . . . come on people!
EJ- Now I do agree that the SAGMA organization should stick to the rules that they established and do have concerns over the adding of artists after the ballot came out but I think that you are incorrect in your addressing some of the rules. First, I am a voting member of both NARAS and Sagma and as it relates to NARAS you are incorrect an artist that are distributed through CDBaby and Amazon are eligible for a Grammy as a matter of fact two of the independent artists, Christopher Page and the Dream Keepers and Renee Spearman and Prez, that are nominees for the Stellar Awards and also on the ballot for the Grammy awards. I purchased both project from CDBaby and I love them. Second the rule for submission was an artist had to chart on one of Neilson's reporting tools. What you did not state was that the entire gospel chart which goes up to 150 is not listed in Billboard which can make some artist appear as if they didn't chart when they actually did. I say this not to be smart but please whenever you state the Holy Spirit leads you to do something make sure that all of your information is correct not only as a jounalist but also as somene who is representing and infallible God. I respect your opinion and at the end of the day it is just and opinion who should and shouldn't be on the ballot is an opinion. For every artsit that you feel should be on the ballot there are the same amount of people who may feel they shouldn't. I think that is why the first round was open to the public to allow the public state their opinion unfortunately eeryone who voted didn't agree with you.
Thanks EJ...A well written letter which represents the facts. I am one who of those whowas shocked at not seeing top -charting established artists name on the lists.You represent us very well.
@ EJ I think that maybe the passion that the people are expressinng stems from some of the negative and hurtful comments many of the people in this industry have posted on Twitter. To your defense you have not engaged in these comments but many of our colleagues have. For example here is one of the twitter post about #youknowyoumadethestellarsballot if you changed my oil last week. This is one of many. Have you seen these post and what is your opinion on them?
To the author of this letter....This is truly Sad, Who ever you are, & say you are called to do this. In my opinion you have just taken up alot of time effort and space to draw attention to process that, has been the same. It's understanding that the only thing that has changed is that the public was allowed to vote. All artists deserve the opportunity to be recognized!! Indies work just as hard as Artist with Deals. Again my opinion is this manner of Confusion, chaos and negativity is Of the Devil. I hope you will be as open about your forthcoming remose of this mess. MAN PLEASE GET A LIFE!! I guess you also agree 110% with the Grammy Process, Did you send them an open letter?? You are entitled to your opinion but the Spirit of God is not a divider but a unifer.
By the way, Some of the Artist are Very, Very Good.. Kim Ruff is my favorite.
@Laquita-- LOL. No, haven't gotten around to the GRAMMYs just yet. A lot of people enjoy Kim Ruff-- gonna check her out! Thanks for visiting and thanks for the heads up!
WOW. y'all tell 'em why you really mad... i won't get any more emotionally involved in this but it is MY personal opinion (and apparently that of many others) that the Stellars are a joke and have been for the last few years. i actually READ EJ's letter (before I accused him of touching thine anointing and all that deep jazz) and what i got from it is that he - and those of US who agree, expect SAGMA to adhere to the rules that they set for themselves. i don't believe that anyone (at least not here) questioned the talent of the independent artists. i'll just use this opportunity to check out some of the lesser known artists who are nominated. good luck to them all.
Wow! I actually agree with EVERTHING EJ said in the letter and plan to sign and re-tweet, and post it on FaceBook so my 5,000 friends can see it. I never heard him say one negative thing about any of the artists, but rather the process by which some of them appeared on the ballot. I absolutely agree that adding names in the middle of the voting process was bogas. I also agree that SAGMA membership criteria is rather weak. Lat year, I submitted a bio as part of the SAGMA membership criteria. This year when I renewed and added my 2-for-1, nothing was required for either of us other than my $85. The only difference this year than in other years is that the public was engaged in the process therefore uncovering the veil of a process that has been completely flawed all along. I believe, fortunately after this public outcry, SAGMA will make some changes to the process in the future. It's just too bad some great artists had to be ignored THIS YEAR in order for the process to be changed.
Well, I'm just gonna go ahead and say it. Judging by the time of the posts, the separating of sentences with "...", misspelled words, unnecessary use of additional punctuation and aggressive tone, it's quite obvious that "Anne", "Samantha" and "Willie James" are all the same person. Foolish. And I venture to say they are either actually one of the lesser known artists or in one of said lesser unknown artist's choirs. But anyway. Great letter EJ. Some folks are just tooooo churchy to get the heart of what you are trying to say. You raised some very valid points that deserve to be discussed intelligently and addressed. The people on here who are trying to make you out to be "the devil" are CRACKING ME UP and missing the entire point. There were a LITANY of holes in the process this year. The public voting is a good idea, but it was not thoroughly thought through the way it should have been. @Michelle: he didn't say artists who were DISTRIBUTED by CDBaby, he said NARAS says your project can't be available ONLY on CDBaby, Amazon, etc in order to be eligible. Second, I've been in this industry for going on 8 years and am well acquainted with the weekly Soundscan charts. As such, I'd like to know what Gospel chart you've seen that goes to 150. It would indeed be news to me. The Soundscan DMA (Designated Market Area) Index report lists a breakout of the Top 100 DMAs for any given project, but that is not a chart. It is a tool for identifying where your sales are coming from. So, as you try to prove a point, I would encourage you make sure all YOUR information is correct as well. @Laquita: since you named her, I will as well. Are you employed by Kim Ruff? I've honestly never heard of her, but I listened to some of her music on iTunes. Good for her that she is getting some recognition, but "Female Vocalist Of The Year"? No hate, but no ma'am.
And I would be remiss if I failed to acknowledge @Anne's flagrant invocation of 1 Chronicles 16:22. Ma'am, that hardly applies here. First, there isn't a prophet ONE in the running. Second, who is nominated and/or wins a Stellar Award is HARDLY a spiritual matter. But there is a larger issue of EXCELLENCE that is indeed at stake here. Just a few things you should think about while doling out demerits on the Lord's behalf and warning of the Lord's impending "dealing". It's foolish.
I have tried not to, but I truly question the integrity of the Stellar's process for these reasons (stone me now, but please research what I'm saying before you do). 1. I attended a function several months ago where Mr. Henry Harris (President of the SAGMA Board AND owner of Spiritco1.com) spoke. He stated that people were mad that indies (and practically unknown artists) such as Jessica Green and Terrel Hunt got on the ballot last year. He went on to pump up his company and said those are people who advertised with his company. I was like wow, did he just imply if you advertise with him, you get nominated? There was a young man on the program that evening by the name of Phillip Carter. I went to the Spiritco1.com website and saw Mr. Carter was the featured artist. I became a listener to the website. I also noticed Phillip Carter was the featured artist for at least 6 months. According to Mr. Harris' website, you can become a featured artist for $200 per month. This is the same Phillip Carter who garnered 6 stellar nominations! Christopher Page also sang at the event. I don't profess to be a prophet, but I've told several people "I bet Phillip Carter will be nominated for a Stellar"! 2. There are several other artists who advertised heavily with Mr. Harris' company who either appear on the ballot and most cases made the final ballot, including Christopher Page, Endurance, Kim Ruff and 5AM Praise. 3. Mr. Harris' company Spiritco1.com is also nominated for a Stellar for Internet Radio Station of the year. It's just me, but doesn't that seem like a conflict of interest or favoritism at best, since he is President of SAGMA? 4. There has been a huge push in the Maryland/DC/VA to get people to join SAGMA. One church in the area had hundreds of applications at $85.00 a pop. One of the nominees attends this church. 5. Spiritco1 obtained the list of people (their email addresses) who joined SAGMA and then proceeded to send emails from the people who advertised with them soliciting their votes. I know this to be true because when I joined SAGMA, I used an email address that I only used for SAGMA. 6. This is an excerpt from a message Phillip Carter sent out on Facebook November 1st. In it he states "You have to be savy and persistent and learn the rules to the games that are being played and beat others at there own game". In the Gospel Music industry, it's not enough to be anointed, you have to have a great presentation. Now if that's not for you, don't be a Gospel Artist cause that is what the industry demands. Yes it's costly and sometimes very discouraging because everyone in the industry is not going to bow down and support you cause you are doing it on the own. You have to be savy and persistent and learn the rules to the games that are being played and beat others at there own game. Don't be naive, the Gospel Music Industry is controlled by very rich people who defy people like us becuase we are not begging them to help us do what we do. You see, everytime and independent artist is successful, he or she keeps all of their royalties, cd sales and performance fees which cuts out the midde man. So please capitalize off of this time that we have cause things will change again but no time soon. I know those who are loyal to the artists that participated in this sham will have plenty to say about this post. But please do your own research, this is just not right. I understand it happens in mainstream music, but two wrongs don't make a right. As I conclude, things will not change until Central City/SAGMA addresses the questions/issues that have been raised. ALL artists, managers, and record labels should call or write Central City Productions, or sign the petition. This preferential treatment must not continue.
I gotta agree with EJ here. Many great artist weren't nominated and that can be very discouraging. (Not to name any names) These people do their best, produce great music, and are over looked by artist who have been in the game for years. Now...don't get me wrong, those artist also deserve to be nominated, but they have filled up the the nominations and those newer artist are no where to be found. Also, with the Kim Ruff nominee of the year??? I in no way am trying to knock her, because she is spreading the work of the lord, but I know too many indie artist and I have never heard of her until now. But, there has to be a change, this also happens with other award shows, it's time for the public to be heard. Yo EJ, I'm signing your petition! :)
EJ! As always, you level insightful and purpose driven discourse to our much beloved genre. After laughing hysterically at some of my brothers' and sisters' previous posts (yes, I'm still claiming them, bless their asthmatic hearts!), I decided to comment. Anything that betters our industry is good for all of us, as well as for our collective image. I will most definitely sign the petition. And while other people so maligned would have simply retorted by dismissing their verbal assailants as uncouth and imbecilic (and perhaps having lepton-sized brains), I applaud your restraint and even-handedness. (Watch this next statement mess with the minds of the "deep" folk!) Congratulations to ALL the nominees and GREAT WORK, EJ!
It would behoove many of you to learn to read for comprehension. Some of you are disagreeing on points that either 1)were never made, or 2) points for which you actually agree with the author's intent. If you don't understand the language take time to dissect it before you reject it. The overall theme of the letter is not to announce dissatisfaction with any particular artist that was or was not nominated. The intent (as I believe it) has to do with the legitimacy of the process. The gospel music industry is already seen as a second-rate industry when compared to R&B, Rap, and Country. Yet, many of the artist responsible for making those genre's popular are also intertwined in the gospel music industry. However, in order to be perceived as legitimate in the eye of the public the gospel music industry must present a uniform and professional front. That means that the awards show, like the awards show for any arts and entertainment media must conform to standard, professional practices. Members must be notified of material changes. Rules and regulations must be standardized. As it stands SAGMA may be losing it's legitimacy among it's fan base and in the public eye as a general matter, because it is seen as less standardized in its approach to recognizing those in the community. This letter is just a concern sent on behalf of many shocked, gospel community artist, professionals, and fans about the seemingly fluid standards in the awards process. The gospel industry should not have lower standards, but higher ones, and this letter is about accountability of those standards.
Great Job EJ! You said some things that have been on the minds of many in a very respectul way. It easy to whine and complain about the process, but it takes some degree of integrity and courage to try to rectify an obviously flawed process. I agree with Tamarra. At the end of the day SAGMA and CCP are businesses, and they need to be held to some level of accountability. I fear if these trends continue, the Stellar Awards will lose its validity with artists as well as consumers. So, I will be signing that petition.
I first would like to say that I am a nominee on the Stellar Award ballot and really do not agree with the negative tone and attacks directed at anyone. No one should challenge another person's relationship with Christ based on their opinion. EJ has the right to have and express his opinion on the process. I personally know EJ and respect him and do not question his sincerity in posting his open letter. I may not agree with how he chose to express his opinion but I do support his right to express it. @ tired of the foolishness I take offense that MY integrity is being questioned in your post.(I don't know if that was your intent but that is how I took it) I have never paid anyone to be on the Stellar ballot nor the Grammy ballot. I am on both ballots based on meeting the criteria and submitting the required information for both NARAS and SAGMA. I have never done anything unethical in this process and really am hurt by your allegation. Even though I was advised not to comment on your post, I wanted to set the record straight. This year I have appeared on the BDS, Mediaguide, GospelUsa Magazine and Mediabase charts. My group has been showcased on the Bobby Jones Show and at the Gospel Music Workshop of America. My demonstration video has over 17,000 views and my music video will begin airing this month on several prominent media outlets. My song the Sanctified Slide has been featured in the Atlanta Journal Constitution, the Black Gospel Blog, DaGospelTruth blog, Rocky Mountain Telegram, and the Belle Report. The dance that goes with the song is taught at almost all community centers located in urban areas during their line dance exercise class. Also, I have been on a national promotional tour for the past six months which I have had the priviledge to perform with some notable and respected artist in the gospel industry. I nor my record company has paid for votes or have paid anyone or any organization to be on the ballot. Just as record companies have purchased ads on this webpage, my record company has purchased ads on almost all of the prominent webpages and E-blast providers. I worked hard and prayed daily that the Lord's will be done in everything I do. I respect your opinion on the process but please do not question my integrity or my work ethic. You may like or dislike my group's music that's an opinion but to question my integrity that's personal and not acceptable. If you would like to contact me here is my number 615-934-1567 and we can discuss your issues in a Christian and resposible manner. We are asked in scripture if anyone has a problem with their brother they are to confront them not hide behind tweets, blog posts and facebook comments as many people have been doing over the past week. Christopher Page of Christopher Page and the Dream Keeper's Ensemble
chile... some of y'all are really pressed! I didn't get anything out of this letter to make me right an essay in these comments. This is EJ's opinion and obviously some agree with it.
Mr. Page, I did not question your integrity nor your work ethic. I simply stated my point of view. I do not know you, had never heard of you until I saw you perform. You are also profoundly wrong if you think I am challenging your relationship with Christ. I apologize if my comments "hurt" you. I do however stand by my feeling that the process has been tainted and compromised. This is NOT a reflection on any particular artist.
Dear EJ, I fully respect the letter that you wrote and I think that you raise some valid points. Throughout the years as a Gospel Artist, I have watched and studied this industry as an Independent Artist should do if he or she is to be successful in this Industry. Outside of the public voting, the process has remained the same for years and now it's a problem because folks like me who have been and are still is on the charts have rallied for votes for our hard work. It's not a sham as "Tired of this Foolishness" has stated, it's how the process has worked for years and I labored for this day and I hope EJ that you had these concerns in the past when others were on the ballot. I also hope that you will be supportive of artists such as myself who did it the right way. I have Radio, Publicity and Marketing and National Distribution. I have been in the top 30 for 10 weeks and counting. I sacrificed and saved for this day and I believe the Lord has blessed me because of my labor. I fully support Independent Artists in their quest for a voice in the industry and I believe you do as well. I have a group on Facebook called the "Independent Gospel Artist Alliance" of which all are invited to join. It addresses the needs and issues of the Independent Artist and label owner of which one of my postings was used by "Tired Of This Foolishness". All are welcome to join and post your comments as well. Sincerly, Phillip Carter (Sounds Of Victory Ministries LLC)
I, too, had never heard of Christopher Page. This is not an attack on the integrity of his life or his music, or the lack thereof. It is simply a valid assumption that when the final Stellar nominees are released, there will be a general awareness of the artists even if we are not totally familiar with their music. I googled Mr. Page, and it really took a few pages before he came up. His myspage page only has slightly over 2,000 friends. This is not an attack on Mr. Page, and I apologize if it comes off that way. The Stellars are one of the highest awards a gospel artist can receive, and I apologetically believe that there is a large standard that must be reached before the award can be given. I also question the legitimacy of any artist who would publish his cell phone number to random people. It's naive and irresponsible at best. As for the public nomination process, although I find it an excellent idea, I think the method should be tantamount to when we vote for something in the mainstream arena, wherein the computer's IP address is logged such that it's more difficult to repeatedly vote for someone. We aren't allowed to repeatedly vote for public officials in any electorate, and I don't think we should intentionally taint God's music in such a blatantly dishonest effort.
Man, I feel like I'm being mean, but Mr. Carter, in what markets are you in the top 30? I've never heard of you either. I looked in RadioOne, and didn't see you on there. Whether we like it or not, RadioOne sets a standard of radioplay since they control so much of the gospel radio market. I also looked you up on Amazon, and there's literally only ONE review of your recent project. I'm sorry. If you're not in Target, Best Buy, or Walmart in any of the top 15 markets (ie Atlanta, DC, Memphis, LA, Houston, etc.), you don't need a Stellar.
If everyone will read the first post from "Tired of this foolishness" that should redirect where this conversation goes. I too was at this meeting. When you have the president of an organization directly involved in influencing the outcome of that organization's balloting and voting process that totally invalidates the whole process. At this meeting Henry Harris gave the total # of members in SAGMA and the total # of members in the DC metro area. He then proceeded to say how if people worked together by taking advantage of the 2 for 1 memberships they could have a profound affect on who makes the ballot. Once the ballots were released for public voting I started receiving emails from SpiritCo1 (Henry Harris, Pres. of SAGMA) from artists asking for my vote. Of these artists I had only heard of one. Then when the final nominations were released to my surprise the majority of these artists had made it. It doesn"t take a rocket scientist to figure this out. Are these awards so valuable that you would sell out your integrity to receive one? This needs to be addressed by someone at Central City!
@Phillip Carter-- Thank you for commenting. I GREATLY appreciate the way that you've responded. As you can confirm, I personally approached you on Thurdsay after the press conference to congratulate you. In that conversation, I told you that I have watched you in various places for MONTHS (i.e. at several showcases at GMWA) and I applauded your work ethic. I did not approach any other artist there, major or independent, with a congratulatory message. I want to make clear that I am incredibly supportive of independent artists. GospelPundit.com is one of the few major gospel websites that regularly features undiscovered and/or less-known artists by way of the "Check 'Em Out" feature. I did so with Kevin LeVar and Brian Courtney Wilson before their albums were even in stores, with Melinda Watts before she even had a record deal, and with countless others over the past year. The issues that people are raising regarding SAGMA are not new, which is why (for example) I referenced the fact that for the past THREE YEARS, the eligibility dates have shifted. That has nothing to do with independent artists, nor does it have anything to do with the current nominees. In a Facebook message you sent yesterday, you stated "This is an attempt(in my opinion) to invalidate the nominations this year." But how can you begin to say that, when I specifically said "I am not asking that SAGMA and CCP amend the current list of nominees or in any way change its plans for the upcoming awards program"? It seems a bit unfair to incite people to such panic, when it's VERY clear that I wanted no such thing. I will join your Facebook group, as I feel that we share a similar burden for the independent artist. My goal is that the entire gospel community is represented well with SAGMA-- not just major artists, not just indies...
Truthfully, I"m sick of all the "LABELED" artists. It seems like they come out with the same thing alllllll the time. Give other people a chance. It's a shame that the secular industry tries to give new artists a chance but yet when it comes to gospel, you see the same faces all the time. Let the Indie artists have their time now. God gave them the gift, allow them to use it and to minister to others. We know what Dottie peoples and Mary Mary and the Blind Boys of Alabama can do. Bring in some new talent.
Dear EJ, Thank you and after reading your letter again, I realize that my comments on the group page may have been unfair and I apologize for that. You did congratulate me at the conference and I greatly appreciated it. Phillip Carter
Look at how the Gospel Music Stellar Awards is causing a rift amongst the Christians... ayo, i called Jesus and asked for his thoughts on this topic and he said, "What's a Stellar Award?" (just joking saints...kinda) I think i'd care more if we were arguing over the process of a Christian Humanitarian Achievement Award. You know, something that might actually MATTER to Christ. I love my bro EJ and believe he was well intentioned. And i encourage EVERYONE to thoroughly READ before responding with your preconceived thoughts. Oh, and learn how to disagree minus the attitudes. Lets grow up people... model Christ.
OMG! I so totally agree wtih 'tired of the foolishness'. I too am a SAGMA member and started getting emails soliciting my vote from SpiritCo (Henry Harris' company) to vote for various artist; none of which I'd heard of. I immediately thought "this has to a conflict of interest". When the final nominees were announced, not so surprisingly were they the very same names. It is all together WRONG from the president of the SAGMA advisory board to obtain the list of SAGMA members and solicit votes for artists that have paid to advertise with his company. At the very least, he should be admonished. Additionally folks, voicing our opinions on EJ's blog gives us an outlet to vent. However, in order for change to happen we must voice these same opinions (over and over again) to the Stellar organization. EJ should not be the only one writing a letter. We should ALL write letters and demand a response to the complaints.
@tired of the foolishness Thank you for the clarity and the offer is still open for you to give me a call. As you can see from Stellar mess' post you may see how I could have that feeling. Given the fact you are from the DC area, I would love to meet you face-to-face. @Elaine I respect your opinion and offer you and tired of the foolishness the opportunity to check out my music. You can send me a message on Myspace or Facebook and I will send you a code so you can download the entire project. @Stellar Mess you are right it is a mess. You can contact me personally if you would like to further discuss the issue. @EJ I just read my earlier post and wanted to make sure you are clear that I was saying noone should be attacking your relationship with Christ and that I didn't oppose your letter or you right to state how you felt. Also I really meant it when I said that I respect you. I'm just frustrated that this process has been filled with so much "foolishness" and "mess" because for those of us who made it on the ballot the accomplishment is being tarnished. To hear, various industry notables spent time posting negative insensitive comments like "I know you are a Stellar Award nominee if you changed my oil" is painful. Especially when I didn't get into Gospel to win a Stellar Award, I got into gospel to spread the message about the prize of the High calling which is Christ Jesus.
EJ, you always approach a subject with such intelligence and passion and tact, and I appreciate it. Also, I first saw your letter on a post on Facebook, as I am part of the Levites group. The Stellar Awards, in my opinion have not been inclusive for years, and for other reasons mentioned here on this post. You will always see the same artists, but you never hear about music from praise and worship leaders like Judith McAllister or Stephen Hurd who put out albums that are full of hits every time they drop. You mostly only hear what is mainstream. I got a an opportunity to vote and I didn't recognize 80% of the names that were mentioned. I think independent artists should want their music to be heard and received by a large audience before they opt to even enter into an award process... Who would want to enter into an award winning process when they haven't been in the industry long? Anyway for this reason, I don't watch the Stellars, the Gospel Music Awards or any other award show, because they are never representative of all the great music that God has given to artists. Again, insightful letter, EJ. Many blessings upon you. To others, to effectively debate a point, you have to be able to see both sides. You must be able to understand your side as well as accept that everyone will not agree with you. In the short time that I have been enjoying GospelPundit.com, EJ has never allowed or posted a blog to allow arguing or bickering. Please be an adult, state your case without anger, and have an adult conversation. Why get that angry over one man's letter? Seriously! And please stop quoting that "touch not mine an0inted" scripture. It is severly used out of context!
"Tired of this foolishness" and "Stellar Mess" I too was at the SAGMA meeting conducted by Henry Harris and Tracey Morgan in the DC area and they put on a presentation that was approved by Central City Productions explaining the process of SAGMA and the demographics of the voting body. He also encouraged us to become actively involved in SAGMA and left it up to the artist on whether he or she would go out and actively seek memberships. Henry Harris has also done workshops in ALA, VA, FL and TN. He is not the only SAGMA representative doing presentations, there are 2 others as well. I also remember when Phillip Carter got up and gave a rousing speech encouraging Independent Artists to press on and get their business affairs straight so that they could be a force in the industry and that could be why he is where he is today. I too received e-blasts from Spiritco1.com advertising artists just like I receive e-blasts from BGP and Urban Round-up etc. It seems to me that he also runs a Internet Radio business in which he does advertisements and e-blasts from his site for those who pay for it like any other business of it's kind. I don't see the conflict because those eblasts opportunities were open to all of the artists not just a few. Also all of the artists that used his services did not make the final ballot. That needs to be clarified. I checked my bundle of emails and saw that there were 3 that I counted that didn't make it that used Spiritco1's service as well. I think that as a result of SAGMA meetings across the country, Independent Artists got a clearer picture of how this process works and they went to work. If one disagrees with the process and calls for change, that is perfectly fine but don't accuse people with no proof. That diminishes the integrety of the one's making the accusations. I agree with "me's" comments. Let's be Christian about this thing and really dialouge about the improvement of the SAGMA process. Lastly I really believe that God is going to uncover whatever is or is not going on in the Gospel Music Industry . Whether we want to admit it or not, we are arguing over things that have nothing to do with Jesus and we ALL ought to really check ourselves and get focused on Kingdom work. Mary
I really enjoyed the post by Mary (11/4 1;07) which is a reflection of truth. I have enjoyed networking with the Indie artist in various groups simply because If you are not in the know or close with a Major Gospel Artist they will not offer to help you or share. I have been to work shop hosted by Major Names and "Some & Most" have a learn it on your own attitude. I have learned so much in the past year from Certain Independant Artists. I live on the East coast and actively pursue and find all great genres of Gospel. I looove, Melinda Watts, Kevin Levar, Claude Deuce, Mali Music & a host of others, and some but certain artist just don't get radio airplay here. Alot of the Indies I became aware of was just from the internet, blogs, videos, post etc. I don't work for or market any of the Independants but I've learn to do my homework just based on the lack of love Shown from Big name Artists. I think we all or entitled to our opinions just not happy with the way we went about getting here, this could have and should have been handled in a better way without slinging name and damaging the reputation of others.
Mary, You need to read my comments carefully. My statements were indeed based on facts. I support (buy music, dvd's, concert tickets, etc.) from both independent artists and mainstream artists. I love it when artists are recognized for their accomplishments. This is not an attack on any artist (again), but how some artists were even able to reach the initial ballot. Now, if you think about it, national audiences have never heard about a lot of these artists. I simply pointed out the common link is Spiritco1.com. This situation is NOT helping the Stellar Awards credibility. There are issues that need to be addressed. It's funny to me how "deep" some folks get when there is a difference of opinion. It's ok to discuss things. I do not believe God is going to "get" anyone for expressing one's opinion. I never once said "all" advertisers were one the ballot (again, read my post). I did state Spiritco1.com obtained my email information from SAGMA and then sent me emails asking me to vote for their artists. That is 100% true. No other artists sent me such emails, just those who advertised on Spiritco1.
@ Mary We just have a difference of opinion. I believe that as President of an organization there is a fine line you cannot cross. It's all about perception. What I got from Mr. Harris' presentation was a way to beat the system. He actually said he could not say those words and someone else in the audience said them. If you are going to benefit financially from sending eblasts regarding who to vote for maybe you should reconsider your role as President of that organization. And if you read my post I said the majority of those artists using his company made the final ballot. I did not say all. I've been a SAGMA member for 5 years and have been going to the Stellars since they were in Atlanta and I had only heard of one of those artists. Once again this gives you the perception if you did business with SpiritCo1, ie Henry Harris SAGMA President, you had an extremely high chance of making the final nominee list. I ask what are you led to believe? Something doesn't seem to be right here.
I understand what you are saying 'Tired Of This Foolishness" and I regret if that happened to you in terms of Spiritco1 illegally obtaining your email address but that is an issue you should take on directly with Spiritco1.com. Other than that, I respect your argument. I have one question for everyone, when all of this is said and done and if changes are made. Who do you think is going to get the short end of the stick? Probably the Independent Artist and my question to everyone is do you even care?
EJ, you are absolutely correct! A few months back I was tempted to enter an artist for nomination because it was soooo easy to do so. The artist had a cd released within the time period (the deadline kept getting longer) all I had to do was - Pay for a membership and start a label (didn't have to be an established one) so tempting, but my integrity stopped me. Even last year some folks were nominated that had no track record. Bottom line, up and coming artist that are in it for the long run, hold on, your time will come. The established artist are out there killin! and deserve recognition. Pay some dues and stop trying to get a trophy that you do not deserve! Earn it. If you get it easily, you will weaken the structure. National artist, be kind and help the up and coming. They just want to know you didnt lock the door behind you.
I read your statement about becoming a dues paying member, but yet you attack the by laws you never asked to be privy to, until the voting does not swing the way you think it should. In some regards you even explain some of the process or adjustments, which is it? Then you go about advising of an error in which an artist was added, we are all human and errors happen. Turn the other check as the word says, because you’re the only one complaining. Your actually asking for the independent artist not to be included in the process, ask yourself who are you that should determine that the public isn’t included after all we buy their music. You mentioned praying prior to writing this letter, I am concerned about your understanding of the answer –God is not a God of confusion. This is something that could have been addressed after the awards and amongst the appropriate decision makers. You see God would have advised you that slighting your brethren and stirring up animosity about the very music that could or should entice a believer to become saved and the believer to remain saved through the ministering of song would be in error. Being in the music industry is no greater than the Words and works of God-just maybe the independent artist have gotten it right. Have you listened to their songs without judging them as being independent and allowed your spirit man to, identify with the very essence of Gods word, which makes room for ones gift as it is written. I never heard of you either, so your motive could be that of an unbeliever or an untaught disciple or minister of the word, go back to the basics the word is our instructions. How else someone could would be discovered in this industry, this maybe their year of “Expansion” and you can’t block their blessing. Next you complained of allowing an additional target market to participate in SAGMA, as well as the reduction in fee. What’s wrong with gospel music supports getting involved in such an excellent industry? You see we as believers can also have the crab mentality and this maybe what you’re suffering from, maybe you can go back and pray about that also. We are not the Grammy’s and even they have issues from the voting process, to gender, sexual or racial discriminations so no organization is without an issue or so. I am not concerned with where an album is sold, but the message it promotes by utilizing the word of God. The consumers are the folks that buy the music, most artist don’t buy a larger percentage of each others work. Most are given through promos or projects and some are purchased by the independent artist who used the legendaries music to gleam from as a training tool. How much music have you purchased and does it equate to that of the fans, so think about it the fans is the voice of gospel music. Please refrain from speaking for the gospel community, as you have no ideal what the fans want- you see we are sincere about the artist we vote for. There is no underlying issue with us. This is the greatest year for the stellar awards and Gods grace and mercy will sustain this gospel organization with his continued Grace and mercy. So, be careful of the fish your trying fry- it doesn’t look like it’s in God’s will and when all else fail you may end up like job-until you get it right. I will enjoy attending the Stellar Award show this year and I won’t be thinking of this foolishness. I just wanted to share some food for your thoughts-press toward the mark of a higher calling and shut this down our time on this side of heaven is too short. MJP/CVA
Wow! Is my first statement. Christians, we have to do better than this. We are all out the to spread the word of God. What does it matter if the nominees are well-known or less-known. If they made it as nominees then they had enough support in the body of christ to make it. We all had to start from somewhere and I just don't believe God would want us to be selfish in this situation. I strongly believe everyone that was nominated has a purpose. I mean are you saying that we should just keep supporting and awarding the same people. ARE THEY THE ONLY ONES WORTHY OF SUCH PRAISE AND HONOR? No! You all need to search your hearts and really think about this situation. Its sad that christians are starting an uproar in the gospel!!!
@MJP-- if you can cite ONE instance of me using the word "independent," or any variation thereof, in my ENTIRE letter (which consists of 1,686 words in total), I'll quit blogging today and be your personal faithful servant for the rest of my days. Fact is, MJP, you and several of your cohorts here are just plain sensitive. You're mad and hurt because other people in the industry have mocked and ridiculed you, or artists with which you're affiliated, since past Thursday. You view this Open Letter as another attack in the same vein. And I get that. I believe that several people spoke unfairly and negatively about several artists-- many of whom are independent-- in a way that doesn't reflect the spirit of love to which Christ has called us. I cannot apologize for them, but will reiterate that you will find that I, personally, have never publicly bashed or criticized ANY artist in relation to these nominations. So, your anger, hurt and insatiable desire to "set someone straight," is severely misplaced. You, and several of the people who have commented here, are so driven by your rampant emotion that, rather than read what I have stated with an objective and comprehensive mind, you chastise me and accuse me of championing the cause for things that I explicitly stated I do NOT want. You accuse me of saying things that I outright spoke AGAINST. And it's dawned on me. You all wanna be mad. You wanna come to the blog and roll your proverbial necks at me. Well, have at it. But me? I'm about to go eat dinner. I'm about to watch some TV. And I'm going to keep blogging, multiple times a day, every weekday, about things that matter in this industry. Cuz that's how I enjoy spending my time. I realize that I needn't justify myself every two hours. My letter speaks for itself, as do the 915 posts presently on my blog, which you find yourself reading. And as it relates to this particular topic of discussion, I'll continue my intended course in furtherance of MY goal-- to create an open atmosphere for peaceful and fruitful dialogue so that the gospel music industry can operate as excellently as possible, for God's glory.
@ Grant and EJ Here is the actual rule regarding submission for a project for NARAS eligibility 3.Album must be available for sale to the general public in an established online retail setting. Examples: Amazon.com, CD Baby, iTunes, Rhapsody, Yahoo, Emusic, Musicmatch, CD Universe, etc. So as I stated if a project is soley available on CD Baby it is eligible. Also as I looked at the purpose of their awards it would negate the arguement that artist need a certain amount of sales, popularity, or charting: From the Grammy site "It is truly a peer honor, awarded by and to artists and technical professionals for artistic or technical achievement, not sales or chart positions." The award is about the music and the artform. This is something that I have not read anyone talk about the music. So I would suggest that anyone who has not heard of an artist check out their music. EJ- I do agree that their should be a higher standard for the voting criteria and more accountability. @ Stellar Mess I recieved e-blast from several of the industry e-blast companies and at the end of the day when I recieved the e-blast it was up to me to chose who I voted for. The artist didn't put a gun to my head they did to vote for them nor has any artist sent me anything for my vote. Over the past month, I also recieved similar e-blast from Trinity 5:7, Vickie Winans, G1, Marvin Winans, Kevin LeVar, and Toni Rachard. If we are going to admonish the artist for sending out e-blast thru Spiritco1, then also go after ALL the artist who sent e-blasts thru other companies and count how many of those artist made it to the final ballot (Black Gospel Promo, Tehillah Enterprises, UrbanRoundUp, and I Am Media) So in your post directed at the artist "Are these awards so valuable that you would sell out your integrity to receive one?" I think it is out of bounds unless one of these artist offered to provide you with some money for your vote. @ Those who don't know some of the artist: What isn't right is this perception that because some individuals don't know some of the artist on the ballot they don't qualify for the award. From what was reported by the Don Jackson at the press conference, over 60,000 people voted in the first round and these artist made it through on the public vote. So either the world is bigger than you, these artist had so much money they paid off alot of people, or just maybe they developed a fanbase that felt they deserved to win a Stellar Award.
Amen EJ. Thank you for all you do to keep this genre alive. I support you 100%.
Get 'em EJ...By the way, how will you deliver your letter to SAGMA? I plan to write a letter specifically addressing Henry Harris' role in this mess. I'll deliver it directly to Don Jackson. I just want to make sure that the person at the top knows whats going on in his organization.
EJ, Lol, enjoy dinner and TV. Keep blogging! I, for one, enjoy and look forward to it. Thanks for keeping us informed.
@EJ Go Ahead boy! you preach
EJ: I am not a person that gets angry by another persons in sensitive and thoughtless acts. But you seem a little uncomfortable with my response and validate yourself by playing on words. Anger is not of God, and you have not changed my day with your response. I don't have any friends on this blog, so if others have responded to you in a similar way maybe you need to listen. I just came from an anointed service and no one can remotely take me out of the essence of what God is doing. Before you check others , check yourself. I hope you enjoyed dinner and remember anamosity is not in the Word as an attribute of Christ. After all we are made in his image, so keep that in mind. Be blessed
@MJP/VA wow. It couldn't have been too anointed of a service if your first order of business was to post a response on the internet. And... Jesus Himself was angry at at least one point, so, maybe check your scripture. One is not supposed to sin in anger. You understand the difference?
This open letter seems to indicate that "lesser known" is synonymous with "less qualified" or "less deserving". In my experience, this is not the case. There are many artists out there who are professionally trained, hardworking, and produce awesome music. The only difference between them and the "labeled" artists is that you haven't yet heard them. The only difference I can see with the voting process this time around is that the general public was given a chance to let its voice be heard. And the public has spoken. Surprise, surprise. It's not the "usual suspects", but acts that are producing unique, fresh music and not the stuff that the labels have been shoving down our throats for years. This is the iPod generation. What plays on our iPods and what commercial radio is playing are two different things and it's time for the "gospel industry" to sit up and take notice. SAGMA did a positive thing when they opened the voting to the public and gave weight to their votes. I say let the people who are expected to buy the music tell the industry what they want. The term "gospel music" suggests that we answer to a higher power than NARAS does. And that Higher Power advocates a policy of inclusion, not exclusion. Respectfully, Simone Henry CEO of TheChristianJukebox.com, advocate of Independent artists and gospel music lover
Amazing comments, EJ! As I read them, it was very clear that some of your readers DID NOT read the letter in its entirety. And . . . if they did, their ability to read AND comprehend is definitely a challenge! So rather than become angry, I decided to pray for those whose education wasn’t up to par, because lacking those particular skills really does limit you in life! Having said that, I'm an "old school" Christian. I know most of the established artists, and very few of the new ones. I come to gospelpundit because I consistently learn about new and independent artists. Not only do I learn about them, I then support them by buying their music and telling others. I'm not aware of ANY other gospel website that consistently provides “up and coming” artists so much FREE press and exposure - which usually equates to opportunity. I'm not sure why some readers choose to overlook the tremendous support your blog has consistently given these artists. More disturbing are those individuals (and artists) who feel that having INTEGRITY as part of the process is a problem. Why should an open and fair process – absent of conflicts of interest – be a problem? Thank you for having the courage to speak on this important subject. GOD’s got you, and will continue to bless you. Come on Christians . . . let’s be Christian!
I don't get why anybody is surprised by who is on the ballot. The stellars have always done this. What got me was how some artist responded to it. It's bad enough the fans/supporters act a fool but when the artist start acting a fool that's just sad and uncalled for. And i'm one of the ones who didn't know who half of the people on the ballot were because where I live at in NC we don't have a gospel station only christian, the only time they play gospel music is on Sunday morning and it's the sedicated shows that only play the big names or ever is making a big splash at the time.
This is Delroy President of En Sound Entertainment I find this article and comments very interesting, as I wrote and an article for Ace Alexander's Airplay360 last month that expressed some rather simillar concerns that I had. This whole thing is a royal mess and it doesn't take a scientist or a brain surgeon to see what is happening and has gone wrong here. I am only hoping that this serves as a wake up call to all indie artists who allow themselves to be used and pimped by others. I am hoping that you will all support the En Sound Music Awards (ESMA) that was started by me, an indie, and guess what, we never had any of these problems and it was ligit. A lot of folks in this industry aren't feeling me right now, but that's ok because I am an independent thinker first and foremost, and one who only answers to God and myself, and so i speak and write freely. It's time that indie artists empower themselves instead of seeking notoriety from others...that is where it must begin. Still I do believe that artists MUST sow financially into anything if they're expecting to reap from it, so start supporting your own and stop lining the pockets of others who do not have your best interest at heart except taking you to the cleaners. I am tempted to say congratulations to all of the nominees but that wouldn't be from my heart, because many of them just DO NOT deserve a nomination, honestly! One Love, Delroy Souden En Sound Entertainment http://www.ensoundentertainment.com http://www.ensoundradio.net
I have to be honest... i like indys and im sure indys work hard but we need to face the facts and the facts are that the stellars is a national award show... so when i turn on my tv im lookin for national artist... that ive heard b4 or seen or atleast gotta press release from or about...im not gonna say that indies dont deserve to be honored but i am gonna say that if ur stuff isnt heard on the majority of stations or i dont see ur face when i look on sites like this one u havnt made it... anyways why are we looking to validate ourselves by winning an award... just get ur message out to the masses and if u keep workin the industry wont be able to deny u anything.... my whole point is the indies on this years list may have worked hard but if the nation doesnt know them then they must work harder thats all im sayin... u shouldnt get nominated for a national award if you are only recognized in one region Another thing... I do support indies but there is one thing that indies must work on b4 they can even consider being recognized and thats production... most indy production lacks professionalism... so its not helping when people are already mad that u got a nomination over them and they go listen to your cd and its not up to par with people that u "beat out"... help urselves indies... dont give people stuff to talk about... Give God ur Best
Well Reading A Lot Of The Earlier Comments I like everyone Agree And Disagree With, and that what we should do. Everyone Needes To Admit 1st And Foremost Never at this level Have I Seen So Much Discontentment, Anger And Most Of All Confusion. And All Should Know The Word Of God Lets Us Know He's Not The Arthur Of Confusion. Its A Lot Of Confusion This Year. Ive Been In This Business for many years,Never seen it like it is now. Now There Is One Persons Comment That Deep And Truthful as Well As eye Opening That Is Tierd Of The Foolishness Its Crazy To Go Against A Person That Was In The Meetings And Heard And Seen Things I also agree with The Things That She Saying To Artist In These Comments That Are Nominees In Some Things In The Time Of Offense A Defense Is Not The Best Sollution Because it Can Show A Sign Of Perhaps Guilt Or Wrong Doing , Or Anger Or Irritation Not To Say Any Of You Are doing That But Somethings If You have'nt done anything wrong let it roll No need for defense. Now I Will Say This Eyes Brows Are Up When It Comes To Many Of the Names That Are Mentioned In Tierd Of The Foolishness comments Maybe One Of Those Artist I Could Go The Store And Get Thier Product The Rest Of Them Nowhere in My Area and Other Peoples Areas As Well The Internet Station I Checked it out too Its Not Like It Has A massive Listener Cume And Basically The Primary spot these Artist Are Playing is there, Cmon Lets Be Real Not Only Real ,But Fair. No One Is Picking On Any One But Reality is Reality If You Dont Deserve it You Shoud'nt Be There .If It Don't Look Rite, Don't Feel Rite, and Don't Seem Rite Usually It's Not Rite. Also My Friends say they were getting those Emails too So Ther is Issues That needs to be targeted and delt with
I read EJ's letter in its entirety, and agree with several points in the letter. I think EJ has concern for the process, Consistent Enforcement of Rules and Accountability, Membership Criteria, the Public Vote. EJ, I think that some misread your letter or remembered what someone else said, or remembered what you said in your blog last night, and blended it into this blog. Last night, you did make some comments that could be construed as non-complimentary of Indies, and the process that led to them being chosen. YOU HAVE NOT UTTERED ONE NEGATIVE WORD AGAINST ANY INDIE. Yesterday, you unfortunately use Kim Ruff as an example of an Indie that received nomination, though you never heard of her. I hope that you will check her out, because she is anointed, and has a beautiful voice! She has a tremendous spirit, and is a humble, God-fearing sister who just worships Him. She didn't get into this thing to just be in business. She recognizes the business aspect of it all, but she is about worshipping Jesus. Period. BTW: Her church did not put on a SAGMA Membership Campaign, as some have alleged. She is the only SAGMA member at her church. I fully agree with all you said regarding SAGMA abiding by their own rules, PROVIDING, it can be objectively shown that they broke their own rules to the detriment of other artists. Otherwise, its all speculation because folks we expected to get nominated didn't. Some are trying to explain why, and can only think of unethical reasons why it happened the way it did. Regarding SAGMA Membership, you said, "To discourage the tendency to turn an awards show into a popularity contest, it is essential that the voting body of SAGMA be comprised of professionals who work in this industry, not merely anyone who submits a membership payment that year." The reality is that it is already a popularity contest among SAGMA member. Why do you think some of the same folks seem to keep shopwing up. Some folks got pushed out of shape because some of the usual suspects were not nominated. The reality is that self-perpetuity (among those in the soro and frat of the Gospel Music Industry) can be assured if you had a more strict membership selection process, as you were asserting. Opening it up may have blindsided some, but that gives way to my next comment: The Public Vote. Tell me about the folk that didn't make it. Did they fall off on the first or second ballot? If they fell off at the first ballot, the people have spoken, no matter how popular they are,or how many weeks they charted inthe top 25. If they fell off at the 2nd ballot, SAGMA has spoken. I don't agree to weight the votes 2-1 in favor of industry professionals, as though these individuals are the only ones who know what a qualilty project sounds like. If that is done, then self-perpetuity will be attained for those already in the industry. Leave it 1 - 1 at the first level. Allow only SAGMA members to vote from then on. See, my response to some of the usual suspects not making it (plenty of them in fact did make it: Kirk, Donnie, Vicky, Donald Lawrence, Mary Mary, Hezekiah, Smokie, Israel, Stephen Hurd, Micah Stampley) is this: Don't these guys have members of their church re-skewing the vote to rebalance the vote back in their favor? Sounds ridiculous, huh? So does the concept that the 2 for 1 SAGMA membership helped cause problems. Someone said this earlier: It sounds as if some of you believe that “lesser known” is synonymous with “less qualified” or “less deserving”. For those who still want to use Kim Ruff as an example of what is wrong with this year's vote. I think someone said, "Female Vocalist of the Year? I'm not hating, but really?" To whoever said that, consider this: That is your opinion, which you are entitled to. However, this is mine, and apparently the opinion of the public (round 1) , and SAGMA members (round 2) who voted for her: People like Kim Ruff are what is right about this year's vote. She is a very talented singer/song writer, she is anointed, she is a 24/7 Christian. Plus, she, like Crystal Aiken and Shari Addison represent fresh blood in the system, whether she came in the way she did, or whether she would have come in with a huge contract and a huge following. Some of these indies remind me of young David of the Bible. While his brothers were inside the house interviewing with the prophet Samuel to be the next king of Israel, David was outside caring for the sheep, doing his job. His own daddy didn’t volunteer his name. Samuel had to ask, “do you have any other sons, cause God sent me here.” David smelled like sheep, didn’t have the grooming, nor the palace training, but God chose him anyway! One thing Kim Ruff: She is not a gospel diva. Good for the rest of us who enjoy her music. BTW: In 1998 I had never heard of Kim Burrell either.
@Chosen 1 How did you know tired of the foolishness was a female? Interesting!!!! Also maybe there is so much contention because maybe these independents getting nominated will affect those chosen1s who have been financially benefiting for years off of the same names being nominated every year. @all those who attended this public meeting - If you felt something was wrong, why didn't you call Central City and complain about it when it happened, or stand up and say that this is not appropriate? It seems kind of fishy that now after those you supported didn't make the ballot aren't in you are having a problem with what was stated at the meeting. You sound like my kids when they lose a game they also get in the car and say the refs cheated. @EJ I commend you for your Open Letter and taking a stand. I hope you have an Open Letter that Addresses some of the other issues that affect the gospel community like Radio trackers taking artists money promising that them will get on the charts and never delivering, Gospel Announcer Announcer Guilds charging artist money to perform at their meetings for "exposure" and then never playing their songs, radio program directors sending out messages saying they will not play a certain album unless they get some compensation, industry consultants who have been fired from radio and record companies but tell artist they have all these connections and the just want to make a buck, journalists(blogs, magazines, and newsletters) that charge artist to do articles about their project, internet and terrestrial radio station that hide behind "promotion and advertising" to get payola to play artist music, and the rampant homosexually.
Wow, it's a sad day when we advocate for those who already have a platform and diminish those who are working diligently to get one. That just saddens me.
I also want to add that this whole thing sorta feels like what Kanye West did to Taylor Swift at the VMA's. That was a real jerk move. Even though many agreed with Kanye's sentiments, he still shouldn't have stepped on Taylor's toes like that. Has ANYBODY thought about all the "Taylor Swifts" here that are having their moment ruined? Sheesh.
@Saddened: Please don't make this into an issue between well-known artists and independent artists, or I'm going to have to gather that you're one of the people DMG15 referred to as not being able to read with comprehension. Read the letter.
@Reading between the lines: It's funny that you find the fact that someone called me a "she" interesting instead of focusing on the very valid points I brought up. I don't know "Chosen1" so I'm sure it was just a slip. Just so you know, I never said I was at a public meeting, I said I was at an event. Also how do you know no one complained to CCP? Sometimes before an action is taken, an investigation needs to happen and very few companies rely on the "word" of one or two people. That's just a good business practice. You also stated that it is "fishy" that because those chosen ones we supported din't make it, we are having a problem. Just so you know, I didn't support anyone prior to voting. I am very involved in the music business, both secular and gospel and I voted according to who genuinely had the best projects according to MY standards. That's why it was MY vote and my votes did go to some of the independent artists. HOW some artists even made it to the initial ballot, that is one of my issues. I suggest you read my 1st post in it's entirety. Lastly, you suggested that EJ write an open letter addressing all of what's wrong in gospel. You seem to have lots of information. Why don't YOU write it. EJ took a stand and I applaud him for doing so, just as I will applaud you should you decide to do the same.
@ Between The Line Lets Clear It Now.I Don't Know If Tired Of The Foolishness Is A Male Or Female I just wanted To Give The Person An Idenity and the comment was made by a female .That remark was kind of Shallow But Nevertheless it shoud'nt Be When People Don't Agree wiyh You That Means People are in Cohutts With each Other. If It Really Makes Any Differance Many Artist That I Voted for They Good Because No Matter Who Running For Certian Categories I always Vote For The Best That Feel Should Be In The Top Positioned. The Reason Why I And Many Others Feel The Way We Do Has Nothing Against Independants, Or Maistream The Stellars Are For The Best Not For Friendship. Have We Forgotten This Is A " GOSPEL" Award And Not A Secular Award. In This Life We Live representing Christ We Trying To Receive Earthly Benefits. But We Strive To Give Christ Our Best That We Can Also This Should Be In Every Representation To Him. So When It Comes Down To Alot Of The Nominees That Are There, This Is What I Feel HOW Can We Give God Partial Than Expect Him To Give Us The Best Im not Going to Dog Any Artist But We Must Be Real And Not Have People Getting Angry And Sarcastic Because We're Real . Because Really There More Indies That Used To Be Maistream Like Dottie Peoples Owns Her Own Lable Now Tamela Mann Independant And A new Independant Label That Distributed through EMI Is Karen Clark Sheards KAREW Records 1st Project Out in A Few Weeks The Clark Sisters Christmas So Why Can't The Indies Use Mainstream As An Example Of What It Take Then Do That And More Without The Over Head Really You Save Money By Doing EveryThing Yourselves As An Independant Finding The Rite Resources Instead People Sharing Knowledge On How To Beat The System Have Meetings Giving Away Knowledge On How To Reach The Level Of Greatness We need To Be. Because For Real God Do'nt Work In No System. Oh Yeah All Other Things You Mentioned About Whats Going In The Industry If It Wrong I'm Totally Against It. But That is Another Issue For Another Time. Thats A Whole New Topic For Discussion But Has Nothing To Do With This One . Lets Keep The Focus On What This Is About.
I wonder what is Jesus saying about all of this? Remember they looked at him as nobody until the people started talking about his good works.
Congratulations, to all of the nominees!!!!!!!! Thank you for allowing GOD to use you through music, sung , and dance. May GOD Bless you and Keep you in all HIS ways. I thank you for sharing in music, sung, and dance what GOD has done for you. Thank you for encouraging others to hold on through the hard times;With The Understanding That GOD is always in control. LOVE